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Title: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on April 24, 2008, 04:50:44 PM
Anyone know about Raymond Pettibone mini-Comix?  He did quite a few (not listed in JK).  He's a famous punk artist who did the covers for Black Flag and designed their 4 black bars logo.  He's considered a respected artist now with art hanging in MOCA (Museum of Contemporary Art) and other places.  I know he did many self-produced mini-Comix (probably in the late 70's to the mid 80's).
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on April 25, 2008, 04:57:19 AM
Here's a scan of one from 1985.
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: Brother J on April 25, 2008, 08:54:06 AM
Cool, you learn something everyday. I know this guy's art, but had no idea who he was. I learned he is the brother of Greg Ginn, owner of SST Records and also founding member of Black Flag. I am a fan of Black Flag's music, but not a diehard fan in that I would know things like that. I used to be on the SST mailing list, I bet these mini's were probably offered for sale at the time since they were put out by SST Pubs, though of course, I wasn't collecting them at the time.

Definitely something to keep an eye open for.
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: Brother J on April 25, 2008, 08:59:27 AM
Here's one of his most well known pieces, the cover to Sonic Youth's record "Goo":


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Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: Reverend on April 25, 2008, 09:48:35 AM
http://www.arcanabooks.com/INVENTORY_interface/arcanainventory/raypettibon_page.asp (http://www.arcanabooks.com/INVENTORY_interface/arcanainventory/raypettibon_page.asp)

It's all overpriced, if you ask me, but that'll give you an idea of some of his other books.
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on April 25, 2008, 11:39:21 AM
Thanks for the great info.
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: Reverend on April 25, 2008, 11:51:01 AM
No problem. As per some of the descriptions on that page, it seems as though there's an index of Pettibon's artist's books entitled, Uwe Koch & Roberto Ohrt's "A Catalogue Raisonné of Artists' Books by Raymond Pettibon, 1978-98." I don't own a copy, but would be curious to see it.

Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: Reverend on April 25, 2008, 11:58:59 AM


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Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on April 25, 2008, 12:02:14 PM
Wow, I have quite a few and thought $50 each might be a lot, but after looking at that site it looks like it would be a bargain.  I have a few copies of a color cover one he did called HUP.
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: Reverend on April 25, 2008, 12:11:14 PM
$50 is probably a bargain, but $200+ seems a bit much. It appears as though his audience goes well beyond the comix-collecting scene, like Joe Brainard's, so you have two sets of people vying for his work.

Hi-De-Ho Comics, in Santa Monica, auctioned some of his stuff not too long ago:

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Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on April 25, 2008, 12:17:10 PM
Look at what I just came across.
"all 111 self-published books."
"The original photocopies publications themselves fetch several thousand each." "Tripping Corpse, and the following 44 publications made in the next four years were distributed by SST (Greg Ginn's record label and distribution company (did you know SST stands for Solid State Transistors)), and anywhere from 50 to 500 copies were made of each. In the late 1980s about 400 copies of most issues were destroyed, making many of these original books extremely valuable."
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on April 25, 2008, 12:19:01 PM
I think I'll start at $70 since those eBay ones sold for about that.  Let me know if anyone is interested I've got available copies of all those listed above in the eBay auctions.
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: Reverend on April 25, 2008, 12:22:57 PM
I came across that blurb about 400 copies being destroyed, but I would like to know why. Was it accidental? Some of the copies that Hi-De-Ho was selling were high numbers (one was 400+), so I wonder how true that is. Then again, that particular book could've been distributed in reverse order, so who knows.
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on April 25, 2008, 12:30:02 PM
I would guess at those numbers that those destroyed ones probably has something to do with the artist at those numbers (was there a fire or flood or did he destroy them intentionally once he became a big name?)
The Wavy Gravy and Wavy Gravy II are numbered and range in number from the 200's to 400's.  The others are not.
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on April 25, 2008, 12:46:01 PM
Looks like there was a German edition of that 992 page book also.
The U.S. version looks to go for $1,400-2,000 for the Hard cover and $350-800 for the soft cover.  Ouch!  Checked my library online and they don't show a copy of it, anyone with access to a copy?  Would like to know about the destroyed comix also???
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: Visitor Q on April 25, 2008, 01:09:00 PM
Black Flag was better before Rollins joined IMO, Keith Morris was their best singer.

Jason
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: Rick Bradford on April 25, 2008, 04:31:56 PM
Clearly "fine" art is where the money's at!
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: Visitor Q on April 25, 2008, 05:05:08 PM
I like his art but he's no Pushead.

Jason
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: jwcomix on May 01, 2008, 10:07:41 PM
Because of his reputation as a "fine artist", his comic stuff goes for nice $$. A few of his items that I sold were Tripping Corpse for $330, Captive Chains for $158 (both in 2003). Asbestos $113 (2000).
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on May 01, 2008, 10:32:04 PM
Good to know, I've got multiples of about 7 and I should be picking up quite a few more this weekend.
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: Brother J on May 02, 2008, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: 50Cent #II (1st print) on May 01, 2008, 10:32:04 PM
Good to know, I've got multiples of about 7 and I should be picking up quite a few more this weekend.


I'd like to pick up one of these, depending on price.
Title: Re: Raymond Pettibone
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on May 03, 2008, 01:28:38 AM
I was informed that Pettibone actually threw out the approx. 400 copies himself...