Poll
Question:
Which is the better series?
Option 1: Bijou
votes: 3
Option 2: Zap
votes: 7
Cast your vote and state your opinion.
Jason
Ain't you gotz no easy questions?
I have to go with Bijou (http://sirrealcomix.mrainey.com/page/_sets/Bijou.htm) on this one. While they're both good, Zap (http://sirrealcomix.mrainey.com/page/_sets/Zap.htm) strikes me more as a free-form expression of comix, and Bijou (http://sirrealcomix.mrainey.com/page/_sets/Bijou.htm) has stories and characters.
Did that make sense?
I'd have to say Zap for me because it has Robt. Williams and S. Clay Wilson but then its tuff because Bijou has Jay Lynch and Kim Deitch. Hmmm... I'm still going to side with Zap on this one.
Jason
Without Zap, nobody would even talk about Bijou today. Zap, as Jerry Weist states, is one of the top 10 most important comics of all time.
On the other hand, neither have Corben
Quote from: dr_s on November 30, 2007, 01:44:54 PM
On the other hand, neither have Corben
Thank God For That!
Hey, I sent you email, no reply?
Jason
God Nose
Quote from: dr_s on November 30, 2007, 01:44:32 PM
Without Zap, nobody would even talk about Bijou today. Zap, as Jerry Weist states, is one of the top 10 most important comics of all time.
*ahem*
Nobody is questioning that Zap preceded most all, and that it is a most important comic. The question was which was the
better series.
:01_bitchslap:
...and show your work.
To me it all comes down to the artist. Who can give me a roll call on both books? Let's settle this pound for pound with two sets of artist line ups. :boxing:
Jason
Quote from: Ultimo Mondo Bizarro on November 30, 2007, 06:57:47 PM
To me it all comes down to the artist. Who can give me a roll call on both books? Let's settle this pound for pound with two sets of artist line ups.
You got it. And in alpha order.
On the Zap side, we have...
Charles Crumb (story)
Robert Crumb
Rick Griffin
Paul Mavrides (#14 & 15)
Victor Moscoso
Spain Rodriguez
Gilbert Shelton
Robert Williams
S. Clay Wilson...and on the Bijou side, we have...
Roger Brand
Dan Clyne
Robert Crumb
Pat Daley
Kim Deitch
Paul Filth
Evert Geradts
Justin Green
Bill Griffith
Rory Hayes
Dave Herring
Jay Kinney
Denis Kitchen
Jay Lynch
Camille Minor
Scott Minor
Willy Murphy
Jim Osborne
Ralph Reece
Gilbert Shelton
Art Speigelman
William Stout
John Thompson
Skip WilliamsonHow about that! Only two names cross the boundaries.
Well Bijou 8 was truly great but Zap 4 got the police to raid 42nd street porno shops and to arrest Phil Seuling at a NY comic show. So, for degenerates like me, Zap wins.
Hmmm, interiors it's tough for me to say. Both have some great moments. In terms of cover art, I go with Bijou, I think most of the Zap covers aren't so great.
Bijou. Most definatly.
http://headcomix.info/forum/index.php?topic=81.0
http://hosted.met-art.com/Trial_met-art_mar_48_308/?pa=1335867
Zap still takes it for me, 3 to 2.
Zap
Charles Crumb
Robert Williams
S. Clay Wilson
Bijou
Kim Deitch
Jay Lynch
All my favorites and Zap has more.
Jason
ps. Thanks for the list Sir Real. :icon_thumleft:
Quote from: Ultimo Mondo Bizarro on December 01, 2007, 01:58:05 AM
Zap still takes it for me, 3 to 2.
Zap
Charles Crumb
Really big fan of Robert's brother, are you? Me, too, but not enough to canonize him in this discussion. :spin:
I think I agree with Brother J. I might go with Bijou for the cover art (#6 and #8 are all-time classics), but Zap was stronger, by far, in content. Zap ran strong for its entire run, too, with maybe a slight dip in 7, 8, 9 or so but bouncing back with a vengeance with issues 10 through 14. For me, Bijou took a couple issues before it really hit its stride, and it never really approached the groundbreaking content of the early Zaps.