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Title: Gallery magazine
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on February 08, 2008, 07:47:40 PM
Received my 1973 set yesterday.  Going through just the December and November issues, I've come across multiple Jay Lynch, multiple Skip Williamson, Michael Krueger (Stoned-Out Funnies, Teen-age Trash), and Spiegelman "duchamp" art.


Here's an example:
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Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: jaylynch on February 09, 2008, 12:11:30 AM
Skip was art director of Gallery, so lots of underground guys wound up in there.  I confuse that with Coq, which I was cartoon editor of around the same time.  In the ish with the Spiegelman DuChamp cartoon, there is probably also one full pager by Griffy...it shows a woman sunbathing on a roof.  And Kitchen did one too...But I forget if it ran in Coq or Gallery. 
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on February 10, 2008, 04:42:57 AM
The only other issue from 1973 that had art by UG artist that I recognized was a big color piece in the March '73 issue.
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: jaylynch on February 12, 2008, 04:57:23 AM
I did a comic strip about the Good Comics Code that ran in Oui mag in the mid '70s. It accompanied an article called "Pity the Poor Superhero"...or "Pity the Pure Superhero" or something like that.  In July '76, I think it was, Oui footed the bill to send me around the country trying to find the truth behind the snuff film rumors.  This was a serious article that ran in their July '76 issue. It's a true crime kind of thing.  I got to hire a bodyguard and stuff. This was the best assignment I ever had.  But around '76 or thereabouts I drew and wrote a lot of stuff for OUI.  The mag at that time had Ed Sanders, Krassner, Stephen King,  Robert Anton Wilson...anybody from the old hippie culture that was any good wrote for OUI.
But no underground cartoonists were in there that I recall.  Just me.  I wrote 365 gags for their calendar in the January ish. One for every day of l977...or whatever year that was.
Also I did a bunch of articles on "Great Myths of Our Time" with Terry Southern and Sanders and a bunch of other guys who chronicled myths...Our original list of myths wound up being ripped off by that guy who later did all those Urban Legends books.  The old OUI was a great mag when Hefner had it.  The current OUI is nothing like it at all.
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: Reverend on February 12, 2008, 11:24:00 AM
My father's ex-wife was one of the women featured in an issue of Oui. I don't recall the date, but sometime in the early '70s.
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: jaylynch on February 12, 2008, 11:53:46 AM
I wrote the copy for some of the photo spreads on the women too.  Weird.
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on February 12, 2008, 01:47:00 PM
I remember eating dinner at a bar/restaurant in Venice Beach when I was young (late 80's when I was in High School).  My waitress was a woman my father recognized because she used to work for him at his Travel Agency in Santa Monica years before.  She was a centerfold in a issue of Penthouse (I think she did it before she worked for my father).  She didn't seem too thrilled to see my father, which is understandable as he was/is a difficult guy to like by anyone.
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: Reverend on February 12, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Quote from: jaylynch on February 12, 2008, 11:53:46 AM
I wrote the copy for some of the photo spreads on the women too.  Weird.

I have to see if he still has the issue she was in. That would be hilarious if you were responsible for the copy!
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: jaylynch on February 12, 2008, 09:15:13 PM
I forget most of the girl copy... I do remember one that starts out with "She's a seeker..."  And Alan Dodge of the Suits band was staying at my pad when I wrote it...so I put in this whole thing about her first boyfriend that sez "Alan happened when I was seventeen...."  and then she goes on to speak of her early affair with this musician named Allan.   I based the boyfriend character on an imaginary , upscale version of Dodge.
         Oh yeah...If you go through a set of OUIs from that era, there is this sex advice column thing in the front of the mag which was usually illustrated by the same guy.
And the usual illos are a generic man and a woman in naked positions and stuff.  So one day the guy who drew the thing came over to my house when the Suits were there...and 3 months later, when the mag came out, he had the man in the sex column illos look like Terry Zweigoff.  Nobody noticed this at the time, of course...TZ not being a household face back then.
         Years later, Dodge came up with an article title for me.  "Showered by Howard".
Alan came up with the title, and I did an investigative piece on Howard Hughes based on that title.  It was in an October issue of Hustler...somewhere in the  mid to late '70s, I think...
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: jaylynch on February 12, 2008, 09:26:42 PM
But the hardest underground era collectors items to come by are back issues of  CANDID PRESS , a Chicago shock & scandal weekly tabloid newspaper that Robert's brother-in-law Marty Pahls edited for the same people that published THE NATIONAL TATTLER.  This paper is all stories that were made up out of thin air.  The more shocking the better.  Crumb illos abound in Candid Press, as do mine.  And for a year or so Roger Brand did a weekly full page continuity comic strip in there called Strawbrick that I don't think has ever been reprinted.   Some of the funniest yarns I tell of the underground era involve Candid Press.  But nobody ever thought to collect those scandal tabloid type things...unless they were hardcore Roger Brand buffs.
     I see Overseas Weekly  has turned up in this forum, though...so who knows? 
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on February 12, 2008, 09:36:01 PM
Like this one from 1966?
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Or these two from 1967
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What year(s) was that "Strawbrick" stip in?
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: jaylynch on February 13, 2008, 02:00:50 AM
'66 and '67 were good years for Candid Press. But it got REALLY crazy content-wise in late '67 thru '69 or '70.  Strawbrick might have been around '70 or '71.  I don't think Marty Pahls was in touch with Roger Brand until after the early underground comix started coming out. Strawbrick was about the same year as Roger's REAL PULP, whenever that was.
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on February 13, 2008, 02:12:56 AM
Real Pulp #1 is from 1971.
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: jaylynch on February 13, 2008, 04:23:48 AM
'71 sounds right for Strawbrick.   In '71 me and Spiegelman were doing stuff for Dude, Gent and Nugget.  And Skip was doi
ng stuff for those mags as early as '66, I think.  I signed my stuff Phil Spayes..and art signed his stuff Skeeter Grant.  And there was a period of time when me, Art, Gilliam, Crumb, Bode, Jeff Jones, Bhob Stewart and a whole other group of guys were doing cartoons for Cavalier.  Before us, Bill (Texas Ranger) Helmer was on the staff of Cavalier).  But by the time we were doing stuff for Cavalier, Helmer had moved to Playboy along with Nat Lehrman...who edited DUDE back in the late '50s when Dude was using Wood, Frazetta, Morrow, and a whole pile of great cartoonists.  There is this expensive history of Men's mags that comes in a dozen or so volumes that Dian Hansen edited.  It's a whole other history in itself...I am too cheap to buy it, though.
The first editor of the Chicago Seed was Don Lewis.  He went to NYC and worked for EVO. Later, he edited a bunch of men's mags.  An old Chicago Playboy cartoonist named Arv Miller went on to edit FLING...and there is a stretch of time when Fling contains lots of article illustrations by Spain and other underground cartoonists. CHERI also had lots of underground cartoonists doing stuff for a while.  And of course SCREW has hired underground cartoonists to do covers since their very beginning. 
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: RebelVisions on February 13, 2008, 05:22:51 PM
Roger Brand drew Strawbrick in 1968-69 for the East Village Other and Gothic Blimp Works. In 1969 he got an offer to do a weekly strip for Candid Press. It paid well so Roger and Michele got married and flew back to California. "Camille" appeared  in CP for about six month, and then the paper dropped it. Brand did some work for Creepy and advertising for Sutter Cinema adult theater and then threw his lot in with the underground. He edited Tales of Sex and Death and Real Pulp Comics.
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on February 13, 2008, 05:40:49 PM
here's one, yes the set would be very expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/History-Mens-Magazines-Newsstand-Hansons/dp/3822829765/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1202932772&sr=1-3
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: dr_s on February 13, 2008, 07:30:34 PM
Cool set. There are 2 for each year, over and under the counter. If you compare the under the counter from the 60s to the 70 over and then to the 70s under you see a great change. I picked mine up for about $30 each from abe.com
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: jaylynch on February 13, 2008, 07:57:24 PM
But it seems to me that CP ran Strawbrick for a while before he started the new strip.
Was it that Blimpworks went under...and CP just ran what was left of Strawbrick (not really caring that it started up in the middle of the continuity, since there was enough nakedness in it to satisfy CP readers even if the beginning of the story ws missing)...and then Camile began after the last of Strawbrick ran in CP?
     I don't know any more...I forget all this stuff.  But I have a vague memory of having a file somewhere of Strawbricks on the pink newsprint that CP was printed on.
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: 50Cent #II (1st print) on February 13, 2008, 11:36:24 PM
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Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: jaylynch on February 14, 2008, 01:02:03 AM
CP got really crazy a little later.  Headlines like "24 hour enema turns black girl white" and "Lesbian Air Force attacks Chilicothe, Ohio".... this is the golden age of Candid Press.  When the stories were completely made up...and when they were completely impossible.  Yet people would write in letters..."I have relatives in Chilicothe, Ohio!  Why is the  mass media censoring this story?"
Title: Re: Gallery magazine
Post by: Comix Junky on February 18, 2008, 07:23:03 AM
What makes you think the letters were real?