So who all followed this one?

[dr_s]

I know who bought it. He knows what he is doing. SO hogwash or not, it was a good deal. I would have been interested if I could have seen it in person. Unless it is cgced, I must see it in person or be buying it from someone I really know, who will give me right of return.

[Visitor Q]

Yeah, whatever.
What i'm saying is,
Your dealer selling Texas Chainsaw soil,
reminds me of this dealer selling "Yellow Dog poo...   .50/lb."
http://headcomix.info/wiki/doku.php?id=thumbs:t:tales-from-the-berkely-con.jpg
Still breaks me up.

Yeah that is a great cover and about the size of it.

Jason

[Visitor Q]

I know who bought it. He knows what he is doing. SO hogwash or not, it was a good deal. I would have been interested if I could have seen it in person. Unless it is cgced, I must see it in person or be buying it from someone I really know, who will give me right of return.

Are we back to the signed Zap now or???

Jason

[dr_s]

There can be only 1 of 2 explanations for your sticking to your view of underground values etc. First, you can be putting us on. Saying anything to get people to bite. I do that occasionally. Like when I pretended to question the use of cunt. Then I sat back and enjoyed it when people were telling me one could curse. Then they tried to shock me with covers, lol. The other can be best explained by an analogy. Everyone has played basketball when they  were young. We were all less than 5 feet tall and played what we thought was the real game  However, as we got older the game changed. If you can't play above the rim, you are not playing real ball. Most of us can not play the real game because we are not tall enough or athletic enough or have other life choices. Your comments are like the person playing pee-wee ball. If that is what you like, then good. If you can't drop $1 or $2k a year on your collection, welcome to the club. Reprints, low grades, finding a Zap 1 in a flea market are great. I don't knock it and did that before I came into some money. But when people talk about the pro game, don't let you experiences cloud your mind. There are people who have $$$ and play above the rim. In that game, condition, 1st prints and unfortunately slabbing are part of the game. I am on the edge of that game. I can't compete with the really big guys, but I understand the rules and try to deal with them. I am resigned to the fact that, except for reprints,  I may never get a first print Das Kampf or more important to me a Walt Disney Comics and Stories 1  You just make comments that show that you are playing on a young amateur level.  When I said that I won't plunk down $$$ based on some stranger's word that his book is a 4 or a 6 or a 9.2 unless the book is slabbed or I see it first, that's because I'm not stupid. I already had someone offer me a 9.2 $$$ book this week that could be a 6 or less. By the way, were you vistitor Q? Remember, when you post, your words reflect you. If you make opinionated uniformed remarks, unless you are trying to get a rise out of people, it makes you look like an amateur wannabee. You are better than that and I still love you.
P.S. . I am responding to the autographed comments, what does that have to do with buying graded books and why did you bring it up? I only own 3 slabbed books all bought for long term investment and more or less low prices.
P.P.S. What early 50s comic book character  predicted slabbing and comics as an investment?

[Visitor Q]

There can be only 1 of 2 explanations for your sticking to your view of underground values etc. First, you can be putting us on. Saying anything to get people to bite. I do that occasionally. Like when I pretended to question the use of cunt. Then I sat back and enjoyed it when people were telling me one could curse. Then they tried to shock me with covers, lol. The other can be best explained by an analogy. Everyone has played basketball when they  were young. We were all less than 5 feet tall and played what we thought was the real game  However, as we got older the game changed. If you can't play above the rim, you are not playing real ball. Most of us can not play the real game because we are not tall enough or athletic enough or have other life choices. Your comments are like the person playing pee-wee ball. If that is what you like, then good. If you can't drop $1 or $2k a year on your collection, welcome to the club. Reprints, low grades, finding a Zap 1 in a flea market are great. I don't knock it and did that before I came into some money. But when people talk about the pro game, don't let you experiences cloud your mind. There are people who have $$$ and play above the rim. In that game, condition, 1st prints and unfortunately slabbing are part of the game. I am on the edge of that game. I can't compete with the really big guys, but I understand the rules and try to deal with them. I am resigned to the fact that, except for reprints,  I may never get a first print Das Kampf or more important to me a Walt Disney Comics and Stories 1  You just make comments that show that you are playing on a young amateur level.  When I said that I won't plunk down $$$ based on some stranger's word that his book is a 4 or a 6 or a 9.2 unless the book is slabbed or I see it first, that's because I'm not stupid. I already had someone offer me a 9.2 $$$ book this week that could be a 6 or less. By the way, were you vistitor Q? Remember, when you post, your words reflect you. If you make opinionated uniformed remarks, unless you are trying to get a rise out of people, it makes you look like an amateur wannabee. You are better than that and I still love you.
P.S. . I am responding to the autographed comments, what does that have to do with buying graded books and why did you bring it up? I only own 3 slabbed books all bought for long term investment and more or less low prices.
P.P.S. What early 50s comic book character  predicted slabbing and comics as an investment?

Why candy coat it? I spend plenty on my collection and although some have the means to spend more I still and most have a nice collection to show for. Not everyone collects for the sake of value or to make a profit, some just collect because they love it! I said before that the fact that my collection or comic books for that matter are worth money is only the icing on the cake for me, it is hardly ever a factor when buying a book.

Sure, having a good paying job or funds to drop whatever you like on comix or anything for that matter is great but let's not forget the people who paid cover for this stuff when it came out, the true collectors in my opinion.

You have missed my point and it is unclear to me why. I never said Zap was not an important book, I just feel that it's value is over rated simply because it has been reprinted so many times over. There are so many rare and yes comix that have quality art and such that have never seen the light of day other than it their original print. To me, these are the real gems because you either have it or you don't.

I personally would never buy a damage copy of Zap #1 first print just to say I own a Zap first print, but that is just me.

These are all my opinions and do not reflect anyone else's but my own. I am not posting any of this to piss anyone off and I am certainly not attacking anyone. I consider myself to be a personal friend of Arnold's and we are both adults so, there is no reason to shut a thread down just because everyone does not side the same.

Jason

Ps. If I have missed you point or what you are directing at me, I am sorry.

Oh yeah and I was Visitor Q! I was wondering how long it would take you to figure that out. LOL! I did post over there to get a rise out of you, guilty. Cripes, it took you long enough... hahahaha The mask has been lifted. Shit man, we really need to have a beer together sometime. I need to get my ass back up there.

[Reverend]

I have to admit, as influential and important as Zap #1 is and will forever be, it's been reprinted so many times that I'm sick of seeing it. And while I don't own a Plymell, there are so many other rare books with colorful histories that I would rather have (e.g., The Being Bad, Catalog Comix #1 and #2). Hell, one of my most prized possessions, my copy of Snuk Comix, of which there can only be a handful in existence, is something that I can honestly say that I wouldn't trade, even for a Plymell. I'm with Jason in that such books are the real gems of the hobby.

[Visitor Q]

I have to admit, as influential and important as Zap #1 is and will forever be, it's been reprinted so many times that I'm sick of seeing it. And while I don't own a Plymell, there are so many other rare books with colorful histories that I would rather have (e.g., The Being Bad, Catalog Comix #1 and #2). Hell, one of my most prized possessions, my copy of Snuk Comix, of which there can only be a handful in existence, is something that I can honestly say that I wouldn't trade, even for a Plymell. I'm with Jason in that such books are the real gems of the hobby.

See... You get what I am saying, thank you.

Jason

[Visitor Q]

<-- Arnold... Ya like the new handle?  That's my evil laugh BTW.

Jason

ps. Hell my other nick was too long anyway.